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"I Got a Lap Dance, and She's Pissed. Help."

This guy thought his fiancee was cool with him getting a lap dance. She wasn't. Oops! Now she's pissed. How can he recover?


QMy fiancée told me she didn't care about strippers but didn't want them touching me. I took it to mean she'd just be annoyed because that's how I’d feel if she had male strippers rubbing up on her. I'd be annoyed. So I thought I was doing good when I was honest and told her i'd gotten a lap dance from the stripper my best man hired. Now she's not annoyed. She's devastated. She feels betrayed, thinks I’m somehow "unclean" and is just so hurt that I’d do such a thing.

I'm blown away. I thought it was par for the course. Accepted tradition. An annoyance for the bride at best. I've learned the hard way that this assumption was a huge mistake. AND now my good friends and best man (who is really a great guy) have lost all of her respect. She doesn't want them at the wedding! WTF!

I've gone from anger for her not communicating this possible outcome with me to a slobbery crying apologetic fool. It's really hard for me to relate to her. The stripper thing is so meaningless to me. But my fiancée can't relate to that. So how do I convince her that she can trust me? We're getting married in a week. I'm freaking out..


Clearly there's only one solution: you need to hire a male stripper, get her good and drunk, have her girlfriends cajole her into getting a lap dance.  Even Steven, done and done.

Sadly, however, we're not in a lousy Ashton Kutcher comedy. So we'll deal with reality. Nothing can really be gained by finger-pointing, so let's start by pointing some fingers.

Where you're in the wrong: Sorry dude. When she says, "I don't want them touching you," there's almost no credible way you can interpret that as, "I don't love the idea of them touching you, and if it happens, I'll be annoyed, but no biggie!!!" She carved out the rules of engagement, and those rules were clearly NO TOUCHING. If you didn't like those rules (and who would?) the time to negotiate was before the bachelor party, not after. She laid down the law. You broke it.

Where she's in the wrong: Let's get some perspective. You didn't have sex with this stripper. You didn't kiss this stripper. Hell, you didn't even want a lap dance from this stripper, you merely went with the flow when your best man forked over some twenties. And, frankly, that's what happens in strip clubs at bachelor parties. Your sin is one of misunderstanding, not malice. From the tone of your email, it sounds like you really, really, really thought that basic run-o'-the-mill lap dances were on the table.  To use some Supreme Court Justice nomination jargon, your presumption is not "out of the mainstream."  Is she in the right?  From a technical sense, maybe a little. But she relinquished her moral high ground by overreacting.

So if you want to get all 4rd grade and bicker about who's right, who's wrong, that's where you start the arguments. But in the words of Mark McGuire, "We're not here to talk about the past, we're here to talk about the future."

You're getting married in a week. So focus on one thing: Damage Control.

Here's your 5-Step plan:

1) Stress that it was a genuine, honest misunderstanding.

You thought you were following the "rules of the game," and, for most dudes getting married, the rules of the game permit lap dances. Not saying that's right or wrong, it just is. If you knew that she was 100% against you getting a lap dance, you wouldn't have done it. Periods. You respect her, you love her, and you'd follow her wishes. Blame you for misunderstanding, but don't blame you for cheating.

2) Put the lap dance in perspective.

Here's one thing we're confident of: she's imagining this lap dance as far, far, far worse than reality. Unless you went to a mind-blowingly awesome shady and tacky strip club, the venues strictly enforce certain rules. You simply can't do much touching. If you try and grope or fondle or kiss the stripper, Buck the Bouncer will throw you through a window and crush your face against the curb, a la Ed Norton in American History X. So she really has nothing to worry about-you just sat there with an awkward, dopey expression on your face for the duration of one song, and then you never saw her again and will never see her again. If that's truly the basis for calling off the wedding, well, you two need some counseling.

3) Reconfirm your fidelity.

We'll admit it. Her overreaction got our Spidey Sense tingling, and we couldn't help but think "Trust Issues." If we had to go way, way out on a limb, we'd speculate that she's been cheated on-or suspected of being cheated on-either by you or a prior boyfriend. So all this Stripper Stuff is flaming old fears. Reassure her. Tell her again how goddamn happy you are to have found her, how lucky you are, how she's the one and only one (Ahhhhhhhwwww!), and how you would never, ever, ever, ever violate her trust.

4) Apologize again.

Remember, you're in Damage Control mode. You said you're a slobbering apologetic fool, but slobber just a little bit more. To clarify, you're not apologizing for cheating, per se, but you're sorry that this silly, frivolous weekend with your buddies caused her pain. It's the last thing you wanted. And if you had to do it over again-if you knew how much this would bother her-you wouldn't have done it.

5) Throw your buddies a bone.

Normally, when torn between your friends and your fiancée, our advice is to always side with the bride. In your case? Wanting to un-invite them from your wedding is, with all due respect, batshit crazy. Your friends didn't do anything wrong. Gently convey that from your friends' perspective, buying the groom a lap dance isn't just "permissible," it's obligatory. Just like how when someone turns 21 and you're at a bar, it's your job to buy him a shot. No different. Yes, a Mormon would object to this binge drinking, but most would find it normal. You need to take this bullet. If she's seriously thinking about banishing them from the wedding, remind her that this is the biggest day of your life, and that you want to share the experience with your closest friends in the world.

And if that shit doesn't work, go ahead and hire a male stripper.

For more on where you "draw the line," don't miss The Plunge article: What Counts as Cheating at the Bachelor Party.

 

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*update*

she's well over it. and the wedding went off without a hitch. thanks for the advice, guys
Eric Estrada, September 22, 2009
 

Maybe It's Not That She Feels You "Cheated"

I realize this post is incredibly old, but I just want to shed some light on the crazy bride side of it. I am now the crazy bride who is overly upset that my fiance got not one but TWO lap dances at his bachelor party a WEEK before our wedding. I do not feel in any way that he "cheated" on me. I do understand that it was not him but the other guys who decided to buy these lap dances. So what's the issue? The issue is that for the last five years, the only naked woman's body he has had in his face was MINE. Now I've got this permanent image of some tall skinny bimbo dangling her fake boobs in my fiance's face for FIVE MINUTES! I am not a tall skinny fake boobed bimbo. I am a short, fit and flat chested average woman. Up until him getting these two lap dances, I have always been very confident that my body was what he found sexy. HIm getting these lap dances have basically destroyed my confidence and I am now embarrassed and self conscious of my small chest. How would the guys feel if their fiance got a lap dance from a male stripper who had a very large package if there package wasn't quite as impressive? I'm sure I will get over this eventually, but if you are a groom-to-be about to go to his bachelor party, don't put your fiance through this. I'm sure if you ask her, she'll give you a lap dance. And I'm not saying don't go to the strip club, just don't get a lap dance. It's too personal and it is hurtful to the woman you love.
TheBridesPerspective, June 14, 2011
 

Stop putting your lady in a man's role in your head

I wouldn't marry you. Your not stupid. You chose to betray her trust and your "friends" encouraged this. Of course you aren't upset about the idea of a male dancer grinding on your girl. She wouldn't derive sexual pleasure from it. Women go to strip clubs to horse around. The genuinely don't become aroused. Men do. That's why your comparison is totally unfair. Instead, you should have asked yourself how you would feel if your wife was the dancer (the female role in seduction and something that might actually give her a sexual thrill). I'm guessing that you would feel hurt and betrayed. Our society allows men to be totally disrespectful to women. If women served up the same type of behaviors, we would be called all kinds of names and you wouldn't want to marry us. What you did was willing choose to get a sexual thrill from someone that wasn't your fiance. The fact that you didn't have sex with her or kiss her does NOT make it acceptable. Clearly your friends don't respect your future wife or they simply lack ethics, which is not uncommon in the world today. Lowering yourself to "society's standards" is pretty stupid.
Would leave you, January 19, 2012
 

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Well dude, you're disgusting for even going to a strip club in the first place. The fact that you're in a relationship makes it worse. Apologize to your fiance, and tell her she deserves a real man. If someone did that to me, I would have left them then and there.
Sarah S., March 14, 2012
 

Husband of 24 years got vip lap dance

I'm still trying to get over my husband getting a lap dance almost 6 months ago. It was a one time thing while out with some clients, and he was very drunk (lame excuse I know, but if he was sober he wouldn't have gone into vip room). He spent a lot of money in VIP (in a very expensive city) but swears it was just a drunk lap dance(s). He said nothing happened. I think a naked woman rubbing on him and putting her boobs in his face is something. I will never look at him the same. I just can't get the image out of my mind. I too have lost so much confidence in myself. I am very attractive and have a good figure and he adores me, but just that he put himself in that position, without thinking it would hurt me, is so upsetting. He said he honestly thought I'd be ok with it, as we have gone to strip clubs together in the past. It's the intimacy of the vip room that is killing me!!!! Without seeing what actually happened I just imagine the worst. I've heard not much can happen in high end gentlemen's clubs in major cities, so I hope that's the case. He has never lied to me, and in fact he told me he went.
The Wife, July 11, 2012
 

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